Session Start: Sat Jan 26 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[00:30]<+Craig> I am
[01:41]<+Tux2> lol, too late
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[04:52]<@BC_Programming> what's up ppl
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[08:36]<+Craig> Morning BC
[08:36]<@BC_Programming> hey Craig
[08:37]<+Craig> What are you up to today BC?
[08:37]<@BC_Programming> nothing much
[08:37]<+Craig> I see, I see
[08:37]<+Craig> I just got up
[08:39]<@BC_Programming> I messed about with Minecraft Noteblock studio
[08:39]<@BC_Programming> made this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX63OO7kE_g
[08:40]<+Craig> Saw it, :)
[08:40]<@BC_Programming> I made 3 others, not uploaded it yet
[08:43]<@BC_Programming> the program is cool... but it uses a entire core at full throttle even if it's doing nothing :/
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[10:57]<@BC_Programming> hmm here's an idea for the plugin
[10:57]<@BC_Programming> there can be the PvP mode, the mob fight mode, where mobs give points
[10:57]<@BC_Programming> but also a third mode, something like a "spelunking" contest
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> in the spirit of the ABBA spelunking game
[11:40]<@BC_Programming> FreeBSD has been installing in a VM for like 3 hours now
[11:40]<+Craig> Interesting
[11:41]<@BC_Programming> oh it's compiling itself I think that's why...
[11:41]<+camerongray> lol
[11:41]<+camerongray> We use FreeBSD at work
[11:41]<+camerongray> I mean, sure it's old but boy is it stable
[11:41]<@BC_Programming> I forgot the root password on my FreeBSD VM so I'm reinstalling it
[11:41]<@BC_Programming> old... 9.1 came out a month ago or something
[11:42]<+camerongray> Will check uptime on the dev server at work
[11:42]<+camerongray> 282 days
[11:42]<@BC_Programming> uh... yep it's building everything from source
[11:42]<@BC_Programming> Python, libc, X.org...
[11:42]<@BC_Programming> right now it's building perl
[11:43]<+camerongray> And this is the little dev server, basic Poweredge T105 sitting in the office cupboard without a even a UPS!
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> would be easier if it didn't ask for options with pretty much each entry
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> though I'm glad I was given the option to compile perl with malloc support. Of course an informed decision on that was difficult since I have no idea what that means
[11:44]<+camerongray> It's only sitting with around 1gb RAM used, not bad since it runs the windows login active directory stuff, the mail server, the DNS for the office, the VPN and the entire phone system
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> oh wait... it hasn't compiled X.org... the worst is yet to come I think
[11:44]<+camerongray> lol
[11:45]<+camerongray> I generally stick to Debian
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> I'll probably dual-boot a *nix with win8 on my laptop at some point in the future.. either when I replace the HD or get a new laptop
[11:46]<+camerongray> cool
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> can't dual-boot with the HD I have now since I can only use like a third of it
[11:46]<+camerongray> oh yeah
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> bad sectors near the start of the disk and stuff
[11:46]<+camerongray> ahh
[11:47]<@BC_Programming> was impossible to get anything installed until I had the idea to just allocated an unused partition at the start and just use a second one that used the remaining space
[11:47]<+camerongray> yeah, sucks though
[11:47]<@BC_Programming> I have another 80GB I took from my brothers broken PS3
[11:49]<@BC_Programming> and the installer is still compiling perl
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[12:10]<+Craig> Hey BC, do you know how to use NSIS?
[12:11]<@BC_Programming> I have no idea what that is
[12:11]<+Craig> :P
[12:11]<@BC_Programming> phonetically I have used Nessus
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[12:53]<+Craig> Thats what NSIS makes :P
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> what was that
[12:54]<@BC_Programming> mIRC rejects it because it's an EXE btw
[12:54]<+Craig> OH hahaha ok
[12:54]<+Craig> How's that?
[12:54]<+Craig> Its just a fade, don't actually finish the installer,
[12:55]<+Craig> I was testing, trying to learn how the fader works :P
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> so wait is it an installer?
[12:55]<+Craig> yeah
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> ahh
[12:55]<+Craig> but the exe is blank
[12:55]<+Craig> It even creates its own Uninstaller if you set it up right :)
[12:56]<+Craig> What do you think of the logo fade?
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> a bit intrusive, tbh
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> could do to be smaller, I mean
[13:00]<+Craig> HAHAHAHAHHA
[13:00]<+Craig> Yeah I thought so as well, but that was just a proof of concept :P
[13:13]<+Craig> Thats an installer, and it works, install and uninstall! :) woot!
[13:14]<+Craig> http://pastebin.com/9Mi4rEuG this is the script! :)
[13:14]<+Craig> ... and yes, I know the image is still too big. :P\
[13:16]<+Craig> What do you think?
[13:16]<@BC_Programming> uh well I don't know what it just installed
[13:16]<orly> language?
[13:16]<+Craig> The Guide, a program for making simple Guides :P
[13:16]<orly> before i look
[13:16]<+Craig> NSI Script
[13:17]<orly> never heard of?
[13:17]<+Craig> Google It...
[13:17]<+Craig> :P
[13:17]<+Craig> !g NSIS
[13:17]<orly> meh
[13:17]<+Craig> Does chanbot not google anymore
[13:17]<+Craig> ?
[13:17]<orly> pottsi` tell him
[13:17]<+Craig> !google NSIS
[13:17]<+Craig> Pottsi won't bug me
[13:17]<+Craig> Who are you anyway?
[13:18]<orly> <-- pottsi
[13:18]<orly> xD
[13:18]<+Craig> ?
[13:18]<+Craig> Prove it. :P
[13:18]<orly> i am pottsi
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[13:18]<pottsi> :)
[13:18]<+Craig> ... that proves nothing...
[13:18]<pottsi> im identified
[13:18]<+Craig> I can't tell that
[13:18]<pottsi> /ns info pottsi
[13:19]<+Craig> ah
[13:19]<pottsi> i'm on my bouncer
[13:19]<+Craig> Have you looked at the script?
[13:19]<pottsi> yeah
[13:19]<+Craig> What do you think?
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> also it seems to install your INI file so it has your MRU Craig
[13:19]<pottsi> brb
[13:19]<+Craig> What is MRU?
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> Most-Recently Used List
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> recent files basically
[13:20]<+Craig> Realy?
[13:20]<+Craig> OOOOOhhhh the Guide :p
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> yes
[13:20]<+Craig> right I should clear that :P
[13:22]<+Craig> Problem solved :P
[13:22]<+Craig> Pottsi - Not interested?
[13:22]<pottsi> reading it through now
[13:22]<pottsi> can't dcc on here
[13:22]<pottsi> blocked
[13:22]<pottsi> and i'm on a mibbit client
[13:24]<+Craig> Ahhh
[13:25]<@BC_Programming> what do you plan to use the installer software for though Craig... I assume that prog was just a test of course
[13:25]<+Craig> It was however, I do like that program, its nice and simple
[13:25]<+Craig> :)
[13:25]<+Craig> I was thinking of making an installer that runs my favorite default settings for Windows 7
[13:25]<+Craig> :)
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> ahhh
[13:26]<+Craig> What do you think?
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> I don't reinstall windows frequently enough to really evaluate how it would work
[13:28]<+Craig> :P
[13:32]<@BC_Programming> crap
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> I think the freeBSD installer won't finish :(
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> I hate installers that come on a multi-gigabyte DVD but then insist on downloading everything
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> hmm actually maybe my internet is borked
[13:34]<+Craig> ?
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> oh so I am here then
[13:37]<+Craig> :P We're chatting... I am not sure how it could be borked? :P
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> FreeBSD can't seem to download anything anymore
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> and browsers don't work either
[13:38]<+Craig> hmmm
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> oh there it goes
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> good thing the FreeBSD installer kept trying to fetch until it worked
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> unlike some installers that will go "oh, we couldn't download that file, so we'll just pretend we don't need it"
[13:41]<+Craig> Hahahha too true
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> then later it's like "OMG this file is missing" and explodes
[13:42]<+Craig> :P
[13:44]<+Craig> Now to figure more out :P
[13:45]<+Craig> Cause I can obviously write registry keys so that is cool,
[14:32]<+Craig> There, my latest version! :)
[14:32]<+Craig> Your good at making logo's wanna make a new one? Any size :P
[14:32]<+camerongray> hey Craig
[14:32]<+Craig> Hey Camerongray! How goes it?
[14:33]<+Craig> Let me know what you think Cam! :)
[14:34]<+camerongray> Downloading
[14:34]<+camerongray> Or not :P
[14:34]<+Craig> skype? E-mail?
[14:34]<+camerongray> Email would work
[14:37]<+Craig> I had to send it as Zip7 cool?
[14:37]<+camerongray> yeah
[14:38]<+Craig> What do you think of it?
[14:39]<+camerongray> Oh, I'm not on Windows :P
[14:39]<+Craig> Linux/
[14:39]<+Craig> ?
[14:39]<+camerongray> Mac OS :P
[14:39]<+Craig> Or OSX
[14:39]<+camerongray> On my Self-Built PC and ThinkPad :P
[14:39]<+Craig> Ahh yeah that wont work
[14:39]<+Craig> :P
[14:39]<+Craig> .... your so strange...
[14:41]<+camerongray> lol, I really like OS X but not a fan of the hardware
[14:42]<+camerongray> Mac OS also works really well for uni since it's UNIX
[14:42]<+camerongray> Command line stuff is the same as on the Lab computers which are Scientific Linux 6
[14:43]<+Craig> You could just use linux... :P
[14:43]<+camerongray> lol, mac os seems to have more commercial applications though
[14:43]<+camerongray> And better video editors
[14:44]<+Craig> Ahh
[14:44]<+camerongray> The only windows program I need is "Fiddler 2" but I can just run that in a VM, I use it for testing analytics systems at work
[14:45]<+Craig> You could run my program in a vm
[14:45]<+camerongray> Yeah, booting up my laptop
[14:45]<+Craig> I mostly just want you to see the installer, not actually finish it. :P
[14:45]<+camerongray> lol
[14:45]<+Craig> Just go to the last page where it asks you if you want a start menu program installed. :P
[14:45]<+camerongray> I only have the VM on my laptop since I use that at work
[14:46]<+camerongray> I mean, there is a perfectly good Optiplex 980 at my desk but still :P
[14:46]<+camerongray> It's pretty much because the keyboard on it is awful! I swear if I still used it I would get RSI
[14:47]<+Craig> Hahahahah
[14:47]<+camerongray> It's one of those low travel ones but they keys don't go smoothly unless you hit them bang on in the middle
[14:47]<+camerongray> It's Dell so probably came with the machine
[14:48]<+camerongray> I'm wondering if I could use both the VGA port and Displayport on my laptop at the same time, there are 2 monitors at my desk but I only use one and the laptop
[14:48]<+Craig> :P
[14:49]<+camerongray> I don't fancy going and buying an adapter to find it doesn't work
[14:50]<+camerongray> The PC at my desk is great but since I can work over a VPN I tend to keep big files on the laptop since there is only 1mbps upload from the office so accessing everything over the network would be really slow
[14:51]<@BC_Programming> Big files are why I upgraded to one of thsoe big 360K floppies
[14:51]<+Craig> HAHAHAHAHA
[14:51]<+camerongray> hehehe
[14:51]<+Craig> Hey BC, check out the installer now :)
[14:52]<+camerongray> I tend to also work with some video at work, Editing videos of "Web Analytics Wednesday"
[14:52]<@BC_Programming> stop sending me crap
[14:53]<+Craig> Awww
[14:54]<@BC_Programming> It's great for you to discover a Installer thing but I'm just not enthralled by it
[14:54]<@BC_Programming> on that note, though, instead of that fading thing where you actually delay any installation you could customize the images in the wizard
[14:54]<+Craig> If your busy you could just say not right now,
[14:54]<@BC_Programming> though I might just be saying that because that is what I did
[14:57]<+camerongray> Craig: That's pretty cool
[14:57]<+Craig> Thanks took about two hours of learning
[14:58]<+Craig> If I remember correctly, there is a method for making OSX and Linux installers, but I am not fully sure.
[14:58]<+camerongray> ahh
[14:59]<+camerongray> Installers aren't that common in OS X, most applications are self contained
[14:59]<+Craig> Fair enough, I don't deal with osx much :P
[14:59]<+camerongray> You only really see installers for bigger applications such as things that run in the background or system utilities
[14:59]<+camerongray> Most applications come in a disk image that you mount then drag the icon into the applications folder
[14:59]<@BC_Programming> Application Packages or something
[15:00]<+camerongray> can have an installer package or a DMG
[15:01]<@BC_Programming> in retrospect if it wasn't for this installer/NSIS thing you were fiddling with Craig I wouldn't be upgrading my version of Advanced Installer
[15:01]<+Craig> Oh?
[15:01]<@BC_Programming> somehow I'm three full versions behind
[15:03]<+Craig> I just made an optional Desktop icon addition :) *Probably going to remove it too though, their annoying :P
[15:08]<@BC_Programming> Oh my Advanced Installer has had some big changes
[15:08]<@BC_Programming> like Office 2003 to Office 2007 type big changes
[15:30]<@BC_Programming> now BASeBlock's installer will look like Visual Studio 2012's mwa haha
[15:30]<@BC_Programming> which actually makes me wonder if I should start using Visual Studio 2012 for it rather than 2010
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[16:00]<+Tux2> lol
[16:00]<@BC_Programming> changed my mind and switched it back
[16:01]<@BC_Programming> looked fine in the preview but terrible when I actually ran it
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> also seems like what I downloaded was a trial... will just revert to using 7.3.1
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> FreeBSD is still installing
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> 8 hours now :/
[16:49]<@BC_Programming> it's done
[16:49]<@BC_Programming> but no desktop environment
[16:49]<@BC_Programming> lol
[16:53]<@BC_Programming> have to make install clean kde4... I have a feeling this will not be a fast process
[17:44]<@BC_Programming> I hate programs that steal the focus
[17:45]<+Tux2> lol, ditto
[17:46]<@BC_Programming> I like the ones "we're doing something so important we will now force you to stare at this modal dialog telling you about it"
[17:47]<@BC_Programming> "we'll also make sure you don't miss it by making it on top of all other windows, heaven forbid you go about your business undisturbed!"
[17:52]<@BC_Programming> oh that's cool, Visual Studio 2012 comes with support for git practically out of the box
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[18:18]<@BC_Programming> hmm seems a bit crashy
[19:29]<@BC_Programming> heh the code analysis tool is still a bit of a dick
[19:29]<@BC_Programming> I like what it has to say about my Block class
[19:29]<@BC_Programming> "Avoid excessive class coupling - 'Block' is coupled with 133 different types from 21 different namespaces."
[20:27]<@BC_Programming> I <censored> hate this
[20:27]<@BC_Programming> look at my account they are all fecking overdrawn
[20:27]<@BC_Programming> not heard a damn thing from the one company that went beyond the <censored> application
[20:27]<@BC_Programming> I'm <censored> sick of it
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[20:27]<@BC_Programming> probably a good call chanbot
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